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 Post subject: Opinions Wanted
PostPosted: Tue Dec 13, 2016 1:38 pm 
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Hi Everyone,

Just curious about what you all think about this thing: http://www.dowelwizard.com/

Would you want one for your shop? Why or why not?

Thanks,
Jim

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 Post subject: Re: Opinions Wanted
PostPosted: Tue Dec 13, 2016 2:44 pm 
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Hey Jim,

Probably not. It looks well made, and well designed, but I don't really use dowels much as they aren't a very good joinery technique for strength, and splines are just as good or better for alignment.

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Tom

BTW Happy B'day! :D

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I have a similar (Dowl-It) jig that does the same thing and use it fairly often.
This one looks simpler and easier to use, definitely smaller and lighter.
Same price range.

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PostPosted: Tue Dec 13, 2016 7:50 pm 
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tms wrote:
Hey Jim,

Probably not. It looks well made, and well designed, but I don't really use dowels much as they aren't a very good joinery technique for strength, and splines are just as good or better for alignment.

Cheers,
Tom

BTW Happy B'day! :D


Thanks Tom, and who blabbed about my birthday? At 62, I want to forget about them, not celebrate! ;)

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Daddy Gloves wrote:
I have a similar (Dowl-It) jig that does the same thing and use it fairly often.
This one looks simpler and easier to use, definitely smaller and lighter.
Same price range.


Thanks Daddy, anyone else?

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I guess it depends on how you work, but I don't see a use for a centering jig. I'd much rather reference from a face of the work so I can easily make parts either flush, or with the offset I choose.


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Hey, Jim!! How are you doing, Buddy?? Happy Birthday! I don't have them anymore!

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 Post subject: Re: Opinions Wanted
PostPosted: Fri Dec 16, 2016 12:22 pm 
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I dunno there are a lot of dowling jigs out there. It does seem like its fairly priced


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Hi Jim, Great to see you back here!
I don't use dowels much, but if I did that looks like the ticket to me. For on-site work it might be better than biscuits with far less dust, maybe....
Anyhoo great to see you here, and thanks for keeping the place alive!

Best regards,
Eric

PS just so you know, it's not too late to start the maze again! :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D


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PostPosted: Thu Dec 22, 2016 8:08 am 
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This will compete against other jigs out there that may be a little more versatile.

I like the self centering function, which is great when you're working with stock of same thickness or in applications where you don't want an off-set. Looks pretty slick and quick.

Some of the limitations I see: You're attaching aprons to table legs, and want the apron face either flush or with a slight off-set. Also, I didn't see the max width supported by the jig. Would be good to know.

With floating tenon systems being the flavor of the month, maybe incorporate that type of a guide into the jig. The self centering function is brilliant albeit with some limitations.

Horses for courses...


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Jim M wrote:
Hi Everyone,

Just curious about what you all think about this thing: http://www.dowelwizard.com/

Would you want one for your shop? Why or why not?

Thanks,
Jim


That self centering system does look pretty quick and easy, but I don't like how it only has two holes.

I picked up one of these a few years ago, and it works great. It's built like a tank, very solid, and as an added bonus, it's "Made in USA". I paid $72 at the local Woodcraft store out here..

http://www.woodcraft.com/Product/821330 ... fgod5-0P8g

It's a self centering jig, but I'm sure it could be offset via some shims...

The threaded part doesn't spin freely, so it takes a few seconds to get it opened up to the right size, but, once it's there, it only takes a turn or two to lock and release it.

One thing I didn't like about it was this; ... even though it has 4 holes, it only has two inserts for each size. When I wanted to buy two more of the biggest inserts, they wanted me to buy a whole set of six (two of each size). I forget the price, but it wasn't cheap! ...and they didn't have it in stock anyway, so I passed on it. I wanted them "that day".

I built a big door with that jig. There was 32 dowels, so that means 64 holes. 64 holes means moving the inserts back and forth about a million times, and it took quite a while to get all those holes drilled. But, at least they were all perfect, and the door went together nicely.

If I had a drill press, everything would've gone much faster... :-?

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