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PostPosted: Sat Jan 02, 2010 10:44 am 
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I have been looking into replacing my TS3650 with a cabinet style table saw and the question I have is about ripping width. On the TS3650 the max is 36 inches, On the Grizzly table saws that I have been looking at they are 29 1/2 and then 52 inches. How many people use a greater then 29 1/2 ripping width? I been thinking about it and I do not think I really use past 30 inches in width. If it helps the table saw I have been looking at is the G0690. Thanks


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FWIW, on my recent Shaker project, there were a couple times I wished I had a 52" cutting width. It isn't an option for me because of the size of my shop, but if I had a larger shop I would absolutely want more than 30".

BTW, it wasn't for ripping, but rather for cutting panels to width.


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Bert,
I seldom rip over 12" wide, and that is usually plywood parts. It is much easier and safer to rip wide pieces with a circular saw and guide fence on saw horses or even on the floor with styrofoam backer layed down first.
I don't know that "kick-back" is a problem but, wider pieces are hard to handle and you take a chance on bending your blade if the material DOES get out of hand.
That is not to say that you can't cross cut using a miter gauge or sled but, 30" is a lllooonnnggg reach doing that too.
Just my 2 cents worth.

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Thats what I was thinking, If I purchase plywood at HD or Lowes I take the measurements with me and have then cut it rough on their panel saw. I don't think I have really used the ripping fence over 24 inches which will split a sheet of plywood in 2.


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I have the G0690, Bert, and love it....big step up for me. I'd like to have the 52" capability when I'm building doors. Cutting the panels can be thrilling w/ only the 36" span, sometimes it just barely enough. Work like that is rare (building over a dozen doors in one year is lucrative but I don't see many jobs like that down the road).

Other than that I don't think I've ever needed it. I sure would never try to cut a sheet of plywood on the table saw, 'specialy if I'm alone, just too awkward.

Looking back over the last 20 years I can't remember a time when I needed that much width other than the doors.

Good luck w/ the saw, buddy, you're gonna be thrilled w/ it.

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What is the blade thickness do you use on the G0690? Is it the thinkerf or the thicker blades?


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I've been using the same WWII 1/8" for ten years, had it sharpened and it still cuts as smooth as a baby's fanny.

The G0690 has a very good splitter system that's 1/8 thick and I'm not sure if they offer a thin version. That splitter is very well designed, easy to get in an' out and is, IMHO, the primary safty feature of the saw so I wouldn't think of running a thin curf blade. Frankly, I don't see the advantage of the thin blade. It isn't compatable w/ splitters or the rule.

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ok thanks I found a lot of post on the forum from SMC and been reading those. It looks like there are more good reviews then bad. I am hoping they have some type of sale when I go to purchase it so I can save a little money. I will also be selling my TS3650


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Bert304 wrote:
Thats what I was thinking, If I purchase plywood at HD or Lowes I take the measurements with me and have then cut it rough on their panel saw. I don't think I have really used the ripping fence over 24 inches which will split a sheet of plywood in 2.


VERY limited requirement for more than 30. If you have a recurring need for oversize stuff, you can get the left side table parallel to the blade and fence your piece underneath.

Since I was obliged to give up my pickup for something with back seats for grandchildren, I take my measurements, my folding horses, battery-powered saw, and a fence with me to Menards. People give me weird looks sometimes, but when I swing the smaller pieces up onto the luggage rack they start nodding. Their panel saw would splinter veneer on both sides with its poor adjustment.


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When I got my saw I opted for the 52" rails. Sorry to say, I've regretted it ever since. The extra length gets in the way all the time and the table I built between the rails is just a flat place for junk to collect.

The vendor where I buy my sheet goods has a panel saw that is as accurate as my table saw with no splintering so the extra capacity on my saw is wasted.

I'd go with the shorter rails and save the space.

Have fun with your decision.

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A cabinet saw would be nice if you have a large shop.
As said above, the rails could get in the way.
Just yesterday I needed to rip 11" of ply off a 48" wide.
Didn't feel safe doing it on my TS2424. So I grabbed
my All-In-One Clamp and Ryobi 18V 5-1/2 in Circular Saw and
rough it and then took it to the TS.

All-In-One Clamp-
http://www.rockler.com/product.cfm?page=16448

Ryobi saw-
http://www.homedepot.com/Tools-Hardware ... ogId=10053

By-the-way, you have a couple of places in the Reading area
to get a lot better grade plywood than HD and Lowes.
Check "Woodfinder". IMHO

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If I have time during the week I normally go to Industrial Plywood in downtown Reading. I just looked at that clamp and it is on sale for 29.99. That is a great deal. I see that there is no reason to get a saw with a ripping width greater then 30 inches


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I had 52 inches of rip capability on my unisaw but when we moved I stepped down to a ridgid contractor. To alleviate lifting the sheets up on the saw I bought a festool circ and long guide and haven't looked back since... straight, tearout free cuts aren easy now--no matter how long

Lawrence
ps- I don't really miss the larger capacity of the uni, though I do miss its power


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The max I can rip on my Unisaw is 28'' but I never need it.

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All my saws have had the 52'' capacity. I normally don't rip over 24'' or so.

I do all my dadoes and crosscutting on the saw so I do the 52'' fence.

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Bert304 wrote:
If I have time during the week I normally go to Industrial Plywood in downtown Reading. I just looked at that clamp and it is on sale for 29.99. That is a great deal. I see that there is no reason to get a saw with a ripping width greater then 30 inches


And free shipping (ends tonight) saves gas. :-D

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