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 Post subject: Big grape shot!!
PostPosted: Fri Dec 18, 2020 4:37 pm 
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I have been working on a nice order for cannon shot.
One piece is a grape shot for a 12 pounder cannon.
It is 4.5" diameter for a 4.62" bore. It is 12.5" tall and weighs 12.5 lbs.
It contains twenty five 1.5" cast iron balls.
It is truly a deadly piece of firepower.

The other stuff is for a 3" bore.

Chain shot
Bar shot
Jointed bar shot
Expanding bar shot
Round shot mounted on a sabot with powder bag
Star shot.
Grape shot


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Beer can for size reference only. Do not try this at home.

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 Post subject: Re: Big grape shot!!
PostPosted: Fri Dec 18, 2020 5:31 pm 
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Cound get your photos to work buddy


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 Post subject: Re: Big grape shot!!
PostPosted: Sat Dec 19, 2020 11:56 am 
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RonTeti wrote:
Cound get your photos to work buddy


I don't see a problem. Could the problem be on your end?
I have about 3000 pictures on this site.

Look at this link. It has about hundred pictures on it. And over 43,000 hits.
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 Post subject: Re: Big grape shot!!
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Prolly is on my end.... not to good with this puta stuff


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 Post subject: Re: Big grape shot!!
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Pics good here.

Embarrassed to show my lack of knowledge here, but I ask anyway.
Were cannonballs used to knock down infrastructure or kill soldiers? It seems like a lot of resources to kill individual soldiers.

Also, did they shoot exploding shells through those old cannons?

Thanks, ron

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 Post subject: Re: Big grape shot!!
PostPosted: Mon Dec 21, 2020 12:31 pm 
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reelinron wrote:
Pics good here.

Embarrassed to show my lack of knowledge here, but I ask anyway.
Were cannonballs used to knock down infrastructure or kill soldiers? It seems like a lot of resources to kill individual soldiers.

Also, did they shoot exploding shells through those old cannons?

Thanks, ron


Ron,
Field cannons were used against troops. In those days, troops marched in tight formation and cannon shot of any kind could do a lot of damage. A cannon ball, for instance, had enough momentum to continue going long after it hit the front line. Grape shot and cannister spread out like a shotgun blast.
In the late 1780's, an English Lieutenant named Shrapnel, developed a fuse system that allowed cannon balls to explode over troops. They were filled with musket balls.

Naval guns used solid shot aimed at the waterline of enemy ships. They also used chain shot, bar shot, expanding bar shot, jointed bar shot and star shot. This was aimed at sails and rigging. A ship that cold not maneuver did not stand a very good chance of winning.
Grape shot swept the decks of personnel rapidly.

Here are some samples of that stuff.
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 Post subject: Re: Big grape shot!!
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Thanks for the history lesson Zulu, I appreciate that. Besides the physical damage, there is a psychological component that I could only imagine!

My Dad was a WWII flyer. His B17 got hit with shrapnel many times. Especially over strategic targets.

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 Post subject: Re: Big grape shot!!
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 Post subject: Re: Big grape shot!!
PostPosted: Fri Dec 25, 2020 1:23 pm 
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I was surprised to see the picture of the FFF black powder for the cannon. I am sure you know what you are doing, but most of the people I know who shoot cannons use cannon powder or at least F black powder. We use FFF for smaller caliber rifles and pistols. I am sure that for light display charges FFF would be safe , but for heavy charges I would think you would use a courser granulation than FFF.


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 Post subject: Re: Big grape shot!!
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Donald Weimer wrote:
I was surprised to see the picture of the FFF black powder for the cannon. I am sure you know what you are doing, but most of the people I know who shoot cannons use cannon powder or at least F black powder. We use FFF for smaller caliber rifles and pistols. I am sure that for light display charges FFF would be safe , but for heavy charges I would think you would use a courser granulation than FFF.



Don,
That can was just for size reference.
I would never use 3F in a cannon.
Cannon grade or 1F only.
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