WWA Info Exchange

Its a rare thing really 160 year old, one does not see these joints often.
It came from same the old school where complete renovation is taking place.

Made one template as they are all identical give or take a few mm here and there.

They use an adze to do the ouside curve.Inside was obviously a hand tool as well.I take my hat off to these craftsmen .

The size is about 48 in .A clever piece.



See "Clover leaf shape ventilation"

Now you can see the hammerhaed wedege in .


See "Teh hammerhead joint"


Next week I will start on that one.

End of the day I admire the work these guys did basically using handtools to achive all that.Should take me about a week or so to knock that one off.

I did look to see if there was any marking or ID on the structure but nope.

Have Fun
Francois

_________________
Its the quality that counts not the quantity.
If you want creative workers give them time to play.

I think it's older than that. I've seen pics of stone megaliths that used that design several thousand years ago.

_________________
I bring to life, I bring to death:
The spirit does but mean the breath:
I know no more. (Tennyson, In Memoriam)

WOW, I've never seen a joint like that. Kind of like a spline that doesn't require glue.

_________________
Frank
WWACOAUX#1
"I love the smell of Sawdust in the morning, it smells like, victory."
WWA'ers I've met: Popeye, Ed Avery, Stephen Wolf, Rockfish, Rodedon

Can't wait to see that one coming along.

_________________
Jeff

If man made it, I can fix it.
If God made it we can pray for it.

Lessons I have learned:
NEVER MAKE ANYTHING OUT OF TEAK
Always remove the zero clearance insert before you tilt the blade DAMHIKT

Don't you ever work on anything mundane? Is everything you turn your hand to interesting as all get out? Does it sound like I'm jeleous?

I can see how the clover leaf may have been done but I'm curious about the louvers. Are they set in a dado? If so, how to they get the angles to line up? Some sorta jib? Hope you show us how you go about it. I'm looking forward to that.

And the Hammer Head: I can see how it works mechanically and it immediately looked like something that the Hill Brothers would have done for Greene & Greene. (If you're not familiar w/ the Greene brothers work, google Gamble House or just Greene Y& Greene. They were the architects, Hills were the fabricaters) But, I can't see from the pic what it's holding together. Do you have any other shots?

Lookin' forward to your updates.

_________________
Joe T

Gene ,yes it is a very old style locking joint .The school was built at that time so I presume contractors were ask to do these and use that joint for that ventilation piece.One thing for sure they did not come appart.Notice the wedges that draws the two pieces together.Looks like one guy took one month with hand tools to create that

Frank with this kind of joint I was also wandering if glue was used at all.This piece has been expose to the outdoor elememts for many years but its just done its time so needs replacing.

Jeff the timber timber is being source cos I need wiiiiiide pieces,probably oregon or something like that.

Joe ,this is part of a contract so I got a looooooooot of work .Dont have yet another picture.Funny you asl about the louvers they are set in like in a curve dado but only half od the timber thickness whick is 3 inc thick.

Those joints takes time but I dont have to use the same technic to assemble them ,we are now in the 21 century .Time is not on my side as I have tons of stuff to do .Got another two guys busy now.


Will show you more when I get fresh stuff done.

Have Fun
Francois

_________________
Its the quality that counts not the quantity.
If you want creative workers give them time to play.

Greeks used similar as a way to join stone. Things were fine when they used lead either poured in or around iron clamps, since it was not reactive. Without lead the rust would expand and blow the stone open. http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/nova/parthenon/rest-nf.html

Cool joint, glad to see you around agian Francois.

_________________
My Boss is a Jewish Carpenter!

Francois -

I'm having trouble envisioning where that joint was used on the louver??

What am I missing?

_________________
Nullum Gratuitum Prandium

Cheers - Dennis

Dennis ,to clear your confusion mon ami ,the joint is used to draw the framework on the edge together.

The louvers are fitted half way with a dado done at the back at a curve angle.So you fit them when the whole frame is done.

I will show you guys when I get going.


Have Fun
Francois

_________________
Its the quality that counts not the quantity.
If you want creative workers give them time to play.