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Does anybody know the approximate proportions of a sailboat's hull to its keel and mast? I'm looking for info on a larger vessel with 2 sails, not a little personal sailboat. I'm looking to make a piece of wall art for LOML for Christmas and want to get the proportions at least close. Thanks

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John

More info please. Modern or antique? Sporting boat/ yacht, warship, fishing, racing, cargo, etc. ? There are so many different designs, with those proportions varying substantially, that there is no single answer to your question. Take a look at Wiki for some common designs. Schooners have 2 or more masts, Barque's 3, and so on.

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I really know nothing about sailing, but LOML has some sort of beach/nautical theme going in one of the spare bedrooms. Looking for something with one mast and two sails ?? Something that would look appropriate with a wood hull as opposed to fiberglass. Not real picky.

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John

Well, don't know if this will help, but I have a few artist drawings of old ships at sea here: http://s79.photobucket.com/albums/j155/ ... tory/Navy/ . These are from the book I uploaded some time ago: http://s79.photobucket.com/albums/j155/ ... ry/Spears/ .

Other than that I think you might find some more info at the Smithsonian site, or other nautical sites. You might also look around at hobby shops for plastic models which you could use. Revell and other model makers have some popular ones. Here's one site that has a good selection that might help you decide on a design. http://www.handcraftedmodelships.com/mo ... -ships.php .

Oh, forgot to ask: Are you planning something wooden, like a woodcut or carving? or a painting/charcoal drawing?

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Definitely out of wood. Can't draw worth a darn.

Thanks for the info. I'll check them out and see if it gives me enough. The problem I'm having si that most pics of sailboats have the keel in the water (where it belongs)

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John

Keels vary tremendously from basically none beyond the type of keel you'd find on any boat, to the deep "centerboard", fin, full, and lead weighted variations. The type depends a lot on how much sail she carries and the hull design. The deep and weighted keels are a fairly new innovation in ship design (comparatively speaking ), btw. The model site will show you most of this variation in design.

Also some info on keels here: http://sailing.about.com/od/typesofsail ... shapes.htm

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I think your best bet would be to go from drawings and pictures of existing boats. This site http://www.bruceroberts.com/ has a lot of different designs and sizes to choose from. While you have to buy the plans, most of the links lead to pages with pictures of the full side drawings that could be helpful in getting your proporsions.

here's some others:
http://www.whisstock.com/page_02.php?pa ... a481d8ca01

http://www.tedbrewer.com/wood.html

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Hey John,

I'm assuming that you're interested in something smaller than a ship, so I would recommend that you check out a copy of Howard Chapelle's American Small Sailing Craft (1951), from your public library. Chapelle was probably this country's best naval architect/historian, and many of his drawings of original American sailing designs are housed in the Smithsonian. It's not only my opinion that, if you want the best representation of what an American sailing design looks like, Howard Chapelle is your man.

Tom
ps. As I was growing up, the first book of my old man's library that read was Chapelle's Boatbuilding. It's on my shelf now, and still one of my favorites.

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If you just need the basic dimensions, here is a link to the company that built our boat. Their brochures give all the basic dimensions. http://www.ipy.com/ShowBoat.asp?bEarly=1&sBoat=IP37

Thanks for all of the responses. I think I should be able to come up with something out of all of these links.

Tom, as far as your book suggestion goes, I'm not going to hold out a lot of hope in finding that at my library. I live in a rural county far from water. Now if we were talking about building a tractor, I might stand a chance.

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John

Hey John,

Good news for you!
Chapelle's book is now a Google book! Which means that it's been scanned and tagged, so that you can access part of it online. Very cool!

Here's the link:
http://books.google.com/books?id=RzbsxR5Nj4gC&pg=PP4&lpg=PP4&dq=Howard+Chapelle+American+Small+Sailing+Craft+%281951&source=bl&ots=hjzzKizjOW&sig=BCHZc9pEhxVEFxHYo9Mdu5GzrXQ&hl=en&ei=wy6STLq0C468sAOpidW_Cg&sa=X&oi=book_result&ct=result&resnum=2&ved=0CBoQ6AEwAQ#v=onepage&q&f=false

Tom

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Tom, that is pretty cool. I might check the library just for grins and giggles

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